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Date Posted: 2011-10-17
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Why Only the enemy of a Nation would be against Universal Nationalized Health Care
Updated: Apr/19/2012

To see why only an ENEMY of Nation would be not 100% for Universal Nationalized Single Payer Health Care (aka NHS), just look at the rest of the developed World. You will have your absolute proof of this statement by considering the FACT that entire developed World operates health care on NHS basis. In fact only USA and some failed states such as Sudan, Somalia, etc. do not have NHS. In fact, and here is the KILLER FACT, all Conservative parties, repeat Conservative parties, in Europe, Canada, Japan, Israel, etc. are 100% for their NHS.

So why all Conservative parties, in Europe, Canada, Japan, Israel, etc. are 100% for their NHS? Because a real conservative would want to Conserve money while getting the Job done which is what NHS does because it SAVES 50% on cost of health care while giving health care to all.

Just think about it: NHS, aka single payer health care, means everyone having health care while health care costing 50% LESS than what health care costs in US which does not have NHS and instead has for profit health care.


What about the health care reform Obama Admin passed

The health care reform that Obama Admin passed, what Republican lunatics call "ObamaCare" is a near joke of a health care reform, since it is anything but Universal Nationalized health care.

To see what a Joke, a cruel joke on the American people, the Obama Admin health care reform is consider the fact that a year after its passage the number of American without health care has increased to 51Million rather than going down to ZERO, that health care costs for typical American has gone higher rather than dramatically going lower because this health care reform forces us to buy health care from the same for profit Wall Street owned heath insurance companies that have brought us the current bankrupting health care system in US. And as the ultimate insult, it does not even end the truly "Crime against Humanity" act of health insurance companies in US denying Americans health care because they have had a medical need in the last 10 years, aka "Pre-existing condition" until 2014! Thus killing at least 50,000 Americans per Year due to this.


The Conservative parties in entire developed World are 100% for their NHS

As one of the best proofs of what a right-wing lying machine most of US Media is and has been, that is such lying sources as the Fox news, Wall Street Journal, Forbes, CNN, ABC, CBS, etc., consider the FACT that they have NEVER told you that the Conservative parties in entire developed World are 100% for their NHS, which would then make it instantly deducible that Republicans in US are lunatics to call NHS to be "Socialism", because that would mean then that they are then effectively calling the Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, etc. to be "Socialist", and how right-wing Obama Admin is that it did not even propose, set aside pass NHS.

So, here is Margaret Thatchers Conservative party in UK, stating that they are 100% for their Universal nationalized single payer health care system:
http://www.conservatives.com/Policy/Where_we_stand/Health.aspx

And quoting from it:
"Over three years ago David Cameron spelled out his priorities in three letters – NHS. As the party of the NHS, we will never change the idea at the heart of our NHS – that healthcare in this country is free at the point of use and available to everyone based on need, not ability to pay."

or here is the Conservative party of Stephen Harper of Canada:
http://www.cmha.ca/bins/content_page.asp?cid=5-916-920-956-957-973

and quoting from it:
"The Conservative Party of Canada has released its platform, which is committed to ensuring that all Canadians have access to timely, quality health care services regardless of their ability to pay."

If you still do not get it as to why Conservative parties in entire developed World are 100% for their NHS, here it is in number format: that is countries that have not-for-profit Government run NHS, health care is taking on average about 9% of the GDP while in US with Wall Street run for profit health care, 50Mill+ have NO health care, 2Mill+ go bankrupt each year due to health care costs, AND health care is taking a DEFICIT busting 18% of the GDP.

So based on the above FACTS, one has to face the FACT of what enemy of the Nation Republicans, Republic-rats and the right-wing Media cabal that controls both are to have used their near total control of US Media, to hide from American people the facts about NHS, which facts lead the Conservative parties in entire developed World to be 100% for their NHS.


Example point: an Example of someone with infectious disease

To see one of the reasons why ALL Conservative parties, in Europe, Canada, etc. are 100% for their NHS, take the example of someone catching an infectious disease.

In countries with NHS, where everyone has health care as a right, this person could get health care without a question and thus his infectious disease would be cured at earliest stage, before metastasizing into something much harder to cure and without him spreading this infectious disease to 1000s more, thus the total cost to the NHS would be relatively minimal as it would be confided to this person only and as disease are always much cheaper to cure at their easiest stage. OTOH, in USA without NHS, where 50Mill+ have no health care, where most small business Jobs do not even offer health care, then this person with same infectious disease would have to suffer until he is bleeding in middle of street, at which point he could be admitted to ER, where it would cost 100 times as much to treat him and meanwhile he could have infected 1000s of more people with this disease.

So just think about it: in countries with Socialized health care, which is all developed nations from Europe to Canada, etc. this person with an infectious disease would have received total health care at the 1st sign of an illness, because he/she would receive health care "regardless of their ability to pay", thus the cost of treating him/her would have been relatively low, and more importantly 1000s more would not have been exposed to the infectious disease that this person was carrying, while in USA this person without health insurance would have suffered and suffered and suffered until they would be admitted to an ER at which time it would cost MUCH MORE to treat them and meanwhile potentially 1000s more would have been exposed to this infectious disease thus costing the society far more in so many levels.

So who but a total ENEMY of the Nation would be against NHS, given the above
example? Who but people who do not absolutely care about the well being of American Nation would be not 100% for NHS set aside be against it?


Want more proof that Republicans are the ENEMY of the Nation? Ask them these questions.

So you want irrefutable proof that Republicans, and the right-wing Media/Cabal behind them, are the TRUE ENEMY of the American People (the 99%).

You can have this proof by asking them a few questions, that is ask them:

1- What do you think of Universal Nationalized Health Care (aka NHS)?
They would answer that NHS is "Socialism". Or NHS will lead to ruin of our economy, etc.

2- Then ask them what do you think of Israel?
They would answer Israel is an example of a successful economy, Israel is a shining beacon of Democracy, etc. They would even say "they will do anything for Israel" such as another Trillion Dollars for Israel against anyone she wants, such as Iran.

Then ask them, do you know that Israel has totally free Socialized health care? Where all Israeli's have access to the same health care from cradle to grave for FREE, of course free for Taxes they pay. Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Israel

So how can you (bastards) explain your total opposition to NHS for American people while your beloved Israel has totally Socialized health care? HOW?

And then watch these Republican (bastards) and member of right-wing Cabal/Media turn RED, spewing a few rants. That is the best explanation that I have heard them give to this total contradiction in their points of view, I kid you not is:
"Well I may like Anglina Jolies breast, but that does not mean I want to have them..."!

So right here, with the above Q&A, you have your total irrefutable proof as to what ENEMY of the American Nation Republicans and the right-wing Media are.

You can also replace above Q&A with Margaret Thatchers Conservative party in UK, for they are 100% for their NHS too. That is ask Republicans:

What do you think of Margaret Thatchers Conservative party in UK which Ronald Reagan called a "fighter for Capitalism and free market economy, etc...."?
They would answer, or they have answered, Margaret Thatchers Conservative party in UK is a best example of how "free market economy is the best path to prosperity..." etc.

Then ask these same Republicans and members of the right-wing Media/Cabal, do you know that Margaret Thatchers Conservative party in UK is 100% for their Government run Socialized health care (aka NHS)!

Then again watch these Republicans (bastards) and members of the right-wing Media/Cabal run like rats exposed to the light of truth for all the lies and Con Job that they have been playing on American people.


So what is going on with USA that Republicans and Democrats are not for NHS!

So how can it be that it is 2011 and only USA along with some failed states such as Sudan & Somalia, etc. still does not have something as essential for the well being of the Nation as NHS?

How can it be that the Conservative parties in all European nations, Canada, Israel, in fact in all of the developed World are 100% for their NHS, aka Socialized health care for all, and the Republicans in US are such utter complete lunatics to oppose NHS for American people so that 50Mill+ Americans do not have health care, so that 2Mill Americans go bankrupt each year due to health care cost, so that at least 50,000 Americans are killed each year due to "pre-existing condition", etc. wrong due to health care being operated on for profit basis in US rather than on Government run socialized basis just as we already run the Military, Fire Dept. etc. on Government run socialized basis.

How can it be that Obama Admin ran on promise of Universal health care but instead it passed a Joke of a health care reform that is anything but Universal health care?

And above all how can US Media be such a right-wing LYING machine that it does not bring to American people's attention that ALL Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Japan, etc., including Israel their beloved nation, are all 100% for their Socialized health care for all? And why is it that all Conservative parties world wide are 100% for their Socialized health care for all. For if they did this would be instant and irrefutable proof as to what utter complete lunatics Republicans are to oppose NHS and what hoax Obama Admin is for not having even proposed NHS. But instead most of the US Media, from psychos on Talkradio, to Wall Street Journal, to Fox news, etc. report one lie and lunatic non-sense after another in support of the Republicans and calling the joke of a health care reform that Obama passed to be "Socialism.." and "Government take over of health care.." which it is NOT at all as it needs to be because as the Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Japan, Israel, etc. have demonstrated a real Conservative would want Socialized Government run health care for all since then the rest of the Capitalist economy can do much better.

The answer to the above questions can only be that a 1% gang that controls the US Government via their control of US Media and Wall Street does not give a DAMN about American people. The answer to the above questions can only mean that this right-wing Cabal which for too has been effectively running the US Government, due to their access to 100s of Billions of Dollars, and thus their near total control of all US Media, and thus creation of a most amazing right-wing Media from Talkradio, to Cable TV, to Network TV to fake "Think Tanks" such as Koch Brothers American for Prosperity, Stanford University's Hoover institute, etc. etc. do not give a SQUAT about American people and Nation, they do not care if they KILL 1-Million, 10-Million, etc. but what they care about and the only thing that they care about is that this 1% remain Super Rich and gets to control the Nation.

So there is NO other way to explain how it is that it is 2011 and US still does not have something as basic and essential for the well being of the People and the Nation as Universal Nationalized health care (aka NHS), than a tiny group in US, that controls all Republicans and many Democrats too and above all controls most of the US Media, is TRULY the Enemy of the American people & nation. For whom but the TRUE ENEMY of a Nation would be against NHS given the FACT that the entire developed World has had NHS for decades, as a result of which while all their people have health care they spend about 9% of their GDP on health care, whereas in US with no NHS and instead for-profit Wall Street run health care, where an astonishing 50Mill+ have NO health care, health care is taking a DEFICIT BUSTING 18% of GDP.




(0) Health care costs HALF as much in countries with Universal Socialized health care:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_systems

(1) Great FAQ by Physicians for a National Health Program as to why Single-Payer health care is only way to operate the health care of a country
http://www.pnhp.org/facts/single-payer-faq#canada-unions

(2) Orin Hatch states "How he loves Israel and will do anything for her..."
http://www.realnewspost.com/sa.php?a=37761

(3) 73% of working, repeat working, people in Texas have NO health insurance
http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/uninsured05/

(4) 50,000 Americans KILLED each year by due to pre-existing Condition
http://www.realnewspost.com/sa.php?a=35948

(5) Just as an example, McDonald's does not have real health insurance for its employees in USA but its employees in Europe, Canada, etc. have
http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/09/30/us-mcdonalds-idUSTRE68T0BS20100930

(7) US Employer Health Insurance Hits New Low - 1 year after passage of Obama health care
http://www.cnbc.com/id/45255516
(Proving what a JOKE Obama health care is)

(8) Multi Million Dollar compensations of Big Health Care CEOS:
http://sickforprofit.com/ceos/
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/26/business/la-fi-insurer-executive-pay-20110526
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2010/11/16/health-care-ceos-bring-home-the-bacon/

(9) United Health CEO earned $124.8 million in 2005
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnitedHealth_Group

(10) One in Four in US Lacked Health Coverage in 2011: Study
http://www.cnbc.com/id/47104398

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By Guest:   baserds 2012-07-02

Enemy of the American People ... wow.

This is the real problem ... and it comes from both sides ... this type of rhetoric.

By Member: ThinkDeep 2012-07-02

lack of Universal Nationalized Health Care (aka NHS) is KILLING at least 50,000 Americans per year, that is MORE than 10 times number of Amerians Osama Bin Laden killed Once in 2001.

Romney & Republicans oppose NHS.

ALL Conservative parties, repeat for Republican lunatics, ALL Conservative parties, in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. are 100% for their NHS

Romney & Republicans 100% Support Israel that has 100% NHS.

Here is example one of the 50,000 Americans KILLED each year due to being denied health care due to pre-existing condition alone:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/opinion/13kristof.html?_r=2&scp=10&sq=died%20due%20to%20pre%20existing%20condition&st=cse

she will be living if she lived in Israel, or any developed Nation.

So based on the above FACTS: what can you call the Republicans & the right-wing Media than the TRUE ENEMY of the American Nation? After all, they are KILLING 10 times as many Americans than Osama bin Laden killed each ear due to opposing NHS, which NHS they know to be absolutely right as per their 100% support of Israel that has NHS, or UK that has NHS.

By Guest:   jebBush4prez 2012-06-11

Once again you keep repeating the same lunatic, left-wing lies. Israel does indeed have a good health care system. In return for their "free" health care, the average Israeli pays 68% of his income in direct and indirect taxes. I can buy the finest health care plan available ihe US and still pay less than the average Israeli does in total cost. Of course, the average Israeli is paying these high taxes because there are so many unproductive people in Israel that still get the same "free" health care. Do you think that might be an issue here, where you need to have an actual income before you can pay taxes to support the health care system? Lunatics like you must believe that money really does grow on trees. If you are so in love with socialism, why not move to Europe or Israel, where you can run your pathetic web site and socialist dating service in a workers paradise?

By Member: ThinkDeep 2012-06-11

Every time you Republicans open your mouth you further prove what utter complete lunatics you people are.

That is you state:
"once again you keep repeating the same .. lies."

But then you state:
"Israel does indeed have a good health care system"

which is what I said, but also she has totally Government run Universal Socialized Health Care (NHS), what you Republican lunatics call "Socialism", which means then your beloved Israel is "Socialist"!

2nd, you state:
"average Israeli pays 68% in Taxes.", which is a TOTAL LIE, here:
http://www.worldwide-tax.com/israel/israel_tax.asp


3rd, you state:
"I can buy the finest health care plan available ihe US"

In Israel if you are unemployed you still get the SAME health care for FREE, how about if you lose your Job here you freaking moron? Set aside that for example 73% of working People in Texas have NO health care.

4th, on top of all above FACTS Israel, just like all European nations, spends 50% LESS on health care, which less spending Republican lunatics claim they want.

By Guest:   bombsAWAY 2012-02-28

You just lumped in a bunch of completely different people into one category, and then argued that since some conservative parties in Europe are okay with nationalized healthcare, that they are all somehow far left of both the Republicans and Democrats. That simply isn't the case on some issues. There is no "left-right" continuum. There are lots of different people with lots of different beliefs, and it isn't right to simplify everything and lump everyone you don't like together.

And all national healthcare systems are not the same either. The sheer lack of nuance or understanding in anything you post is astounding.

"Four legs good, two legs bad!" That's all you really have to say. Then you pull out biased "facts" and then argue that anybody that disagrees with you is automatically wrong. Good day to you, jack off.

By Member: Real_News 2012-02-28

bombsAWAY, 1st it is not "some conservative parties in Europe are okay with nationalized healthcare", but ALL, repeat in case you did not get such a TOTAL word, ALL, conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. are 100% for their Universal nationalized healthcare (aka NHS).

So what does that tell you? It tells you how right-wing Obama Dems are and thus what utter complete lunatics Republicans are and this whole scam is ONLY possible because US Media, aka Wall Street owned Media, is on this scam against American people.

And WHY are ALL Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. are 100% for their NHS? Because NHS SAVES 50% on cost of health care while giving health care to ALL. So only an ENEMY of a Nation would be not for NHS, set aside against it, given the FACT that NHS would save US economy $1-T per year while giving health care to ALL Americans and again that is why ALL Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. are 100% for their NHS.

And NHS is just one example, but an ABSOLUTE one.

By Member: Grandpa 2012-01-28

After the first six weeks being written sick in Germany, you can continue up to a year written sick and recieve 78% of your paycheck. So, if i have CANCER, I don`t have to also stress about losing my house or car or whatever else my family has built up after all our hard work!

Hell, you get sick in America and your employer usually won`t wait long to replace your butt because this might mean you could get sick again and cause their health insurance rates to increase!!!!!

I almost think most people in America that are against protecting the values of our nations well being would rather pass a bill to EXTERMINATE all sick people in our country.
After all as the AMERICAN saying goes: ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE!!

By Member: NHS_Facts 2012-01-28

Yes one cannot conclude but any other conculsion that the right-wing Media/Cabal behind Republican lunatics and hoax Democrats in USA want "to EXTERMINATE all sick people in our country." or actually worst, that they want to KILL as many Americans as possible while bankrupting evenmore. How else can you explain that it is 2012 and USA still does not have Universal socialized health care, aka NHS, something that the ENTIRE developed World has had for decades, from ALL Europeans, to Canada, to Israel the belove Nation of the right-wing Media/Cabal, etc.
HOW?
I mean NHS will mean all Americans having health care all their lives while health care csoting about $1-Trillion LESS, not more, but LESS.

Now what is really telling that an EVIL right-wing Media/Cabal in US wants to make as many Americans as misreable as possible, is that the Media machinery that they control from psychos on Talkradio, to Fox, to Wall Street Journal, etc. write, relentlessly, to date in 2012, that NHS will bankrupt us etc. lies when the EXACT opposite is true since NHS means spending by US Government and businesses, about $1-T LESS on health care, beside giving health care to all Americans, and that is why all Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Japan, Israel, etc. are 100% for their Government run socialized health care.

By Member: Grandpa 2012-01-28

Besides excellent healthcare in Germany with all it`s benefits. I get 100% of my salary (40 hour work week) in sick pay, which is paid for the first 6 weeks by my employer, and after that paid by the berufs genossenshaft (workers trades protection party), and your employer combined. If I break my leg playing scrabble on my private time, guess what? YEP, you guessed it! 100% of my paycheck!!
This pay out is paid by what`s called the Krankenkasse (health care system). And it`s not difficult getting a doctor to write you sick! As a matter of fact my wife and I usually have to brake the doctors from writing too much. My wife had a inflammed shoulder muscle and the doctor wanted to write her sick for 3 weeks immediately. But because she doesn`t want to abuse the system she started with one week and returned to the doctor for more! And to reply to one comment here, NO the healthcare system here is not failing. It only suffers when a country has high unemployment due to lack of funds going in! That`s part of any government system that depends on taxes. They must adjust spending elsewhere!

By Guest:   Guest 2012-04-20

Three weeks for an inflamed shoulder? Your wife is weak and your system sucks.

By Guest:   NoWayJose 2011-12-14

The Euro started trading on January 5, 1999. The opening price was $1.16 and reached a high of $1.19 before settling at at $1.18.
Whoever posted that it was released at 1 to 1 against the $ is a liar or is suffering from memory loss.

By Member: NHS_Facts 2011-12-15

1st, Euro was introduced at 1 to 1 to US Dollar, here:
http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/2000forexrates.html
in fact it was introduced at .98 to USD


2nd, what is the point of stating your erronus info in reply to this article anyway! The article is talking about "Why Only the enemy of a Nation would be against Universal Nationalized Health Care ", specially given the fact that It is not just Europeans that have Universal Nationalized Health Care, so do all other developed nations, including Israel the beloved nation of Republicans and the article does a great job of proving this fact by asking a few question from a typical Republican as to their position on Universal Nationalized Health Care, their position on Israel, and then stating the fact that Israel, the beloved nation of Republicans has 100% free, for Taxes that you pay, Universal Nationalized Health Care.

By Guest:   Bruce 2011-12-10

Expose': Multiple posters on this website are one and the same! Some examples are as follows:
Member: ThinkDeep
2011-11-28
To say that you Republicans are brain dead lunatic, is putting it mildly, for:
1st, Euro has gained a MIGHTY 33% over US Dollar since its intro.

By Member: Europal
2011-12-03
You are the BEST example of what lunatics, what retards, Republicans in US are.
2nd, Euro has GAINED a Mighty 33% over US Dollar

By Member: Real_News
2011-11-30
has GAINED a MIGHTY 33% against US Dollar.

Notice consistencies here? All posted by the same person...I am sure I can find more ...funny thing is even their personal insults are the same..."republican lunatic" figures strongly as well as "brain dead". Whoever is posting all this claptrap isnt even very good at it...

The jig is up guys...cause I am going to keep posting this every day. Multiple times and if necessary I will use new logins LOL you cannot stop me and the evidence is there for anyone to see.

Deceptions deceptions..how deep do they run?

By Guest:   Bruce 2011-12-10

** Deleted for being a repat rant **

By Member: Real_News 2011-12-11

So by your rearted reasoning then all you Republican lunatics from Rush, to Beck, to Hannety, to Gingritch, to Ron Paul, to Bachman, to you whom all you can say is "socialism socialist socialism socialist socialism socialist socialism socialist socialism socialist socialism socialist socialism socialist socialism socialist socialism socialist ..."
must be the same people then.

So while you lunatics call something as needed for operation of a country as universal natiolized health care to be "socialism socialist" where it is a socialzed service, ypu love the US Military that is a 100% SOCIALIST serivce. You people are either part of the Con Job of the Republican party or are complete lunatics, like you, that have been brain washed by the Con Job of the Republican party and the rightWing Cabal behind them, to have NO grasp on reality anymore.

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