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Author: ThinkDeep
Date Posted: 2012-10-05
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Presidential debates & elections are really Charades
If Obama was real, if Obama was not a HOAX, if Obama was not in fact controlled by the same right-wing Media/Cabal (aka Wall Street gang) behind Romney, then he would have wiped the floor with Romney in the so called Debates, he could have destroyed Romney and the Republican party by exposing them for being either utter complete Lunatics or WORSE the TRUE ENEMY within. Here is how:


On Health Care

The so called Journalist or Obama would have asked Romney:

1- ALL Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. are 100% for their Government run Universal Socialized Health care (NHS), what you Republicans call "Socialism" and oppose. So either ALL Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. are "Socialists" or you Republicans in US are complete lunatics. Which one is it?

2- Do you know why ALL Conservative parties, repeat ALL Conservative parties, in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. are 100% for their NHS? Because it SAVES 50% on cost of health care while giving health care to all. What part of that you do not like? That NHS gives health care to ALL American People and thus it will SAVE 10,000s of 1000s of Americans from being KILLED each year due to no health care or it will stop 2-Million Americans from going bankrupt each year due to health care costs. Or you do not like NHS because it will reduce health care spending and thus Deficits by $1-Trillion per year?

Now why could Obama not ask those questions? Because Obama Admin passed a TOTAL JOKE of a health care reform, since it is anything but NHS, in fact it is a GIANT gift to Big Pharma, Big Insurance (aka Wall Street), since it mandates us to buy health insurance from the same Wall Street backed companies that have brought us the current bankrupting system, given the FACT that 2 year since it passage number of American without health insurance has gone up by few Million rather than going down to ZERO, or simply given the FACT that it is NOT even as Liberal as RomneyCare, which plan was originally proposed by Ultra right-wing Heritage Foundation!


How can you Love Socialized health care in Israel but call the same "Socialism" for Americans

If Obama was not a HOAX and the so called Journalist not a FARCE, they would have asked Romney:

Mr. Romney you were in Israel a few weeks back. And in that visit you commended the Israelis for:

"Having a thriving Free Market economy"

And you also commended, actually marveled, on how Israel gives health care to ALL her People while spending 50% LESS on health care than US.

Now you certainly know that Israel has 100% Government run Universal Socialized Health care (NHS), where EVERY Israeli gets health care for life for FREE for Taxes they pay, what you (bastards) oppose for American People calling it "Socialist Socialism".

So how can you (bastards) explain your opposition to NHS for American people, resulting in 50,000+ Americans being KILLED each year due to denial of health care due to pre-existing Condition alone, 2-Million Americans going bankrupt each year due to health care costs, etc. catastrophe while your beloved Israel has 100% Government run Universal Socialized Health care?

HOW? Explain Mr. Romney: HOW?

And in case you say:

"Yes but Israel has a small population"

UK has the same NHS as Israel & 10 times the Population. And the NHS in UK is 100% supported by your other beloved and admired party, that of Margaret Thatchers Conservative party. Or are you now saying that Margaret Thatchers Conservative party is "Socialist" because they 100% support their Government run Universal Socialized Health care?


What is the difference between you and Bush?

If Obama was not a HOAX and the so called Journalist not a FARCE, they would have asked Romney:

Mr. Romney your economic plan is EXACTLY the same as Bush plan was. So how is your Plan going to do different than Bush in creating Jobs and not cause an economic catastrophe if there is NOTHING, NOT a thing, different between you and Bush!

To be exact here are key parts of your plan which are EXACTLY the same as Bush plan:

1- More Tax breaks for the Super rich

2- Less regulation of the Wall Street gang

3- Whatever Israel wants, including a new War, this time with Iran

4- No investment in American People & Cities because that would be "Socialism" or "We have too much Debt & Deficits"

5- Whatever the Military Industrial Complex wants

Now why Obama could not ask the above damning Question, because Obama Admin has done almost exactly as Bush Admin, from carrying on the Iraq War the same, to carrying on the Afghan War the same, to War-mongering against Iran, etc. the same, to NOT even passing Government run Universal Socialized Health care (NHS), what is supported by ALL Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc.


About Jobs

f Obama was not a HOAX and the so called not a FARCE, they would have asked Romney:

Mr. Romney, you keep referring to the high unemployment numbers in US as a proof of failure of Obama Admin, which is TRUE. So you really want LOW Unemployment? Then lets look at some RICH countries that have MUCH LOWER Unemployment than US and see what they are doing different:

Germany has un-employment rate of 5.4%,
Norway 3.2%
Netherlands 4.2%
Japan 4.1%,
Australia 5.2%,
China 4.1%,
South Korea 3.7%

So what are they doing different compared to US?

1- They have Universal socialized health care, which means while all their people have health care they spend a small fraction of what US businesses and Government spend on health care.

2- They have Universal Education, which meas you can go up to college pretty much for FREE. Contrast this to US where getting a BS degree can cost you an INSANE $100,000 AND MORE, putting you or your family in debt for years to come.

3- They do not spend Trillions of Dollars on a Gargantuan Military and unnecessary Wars 10,000K from their borders, as US does all the time.

4- They have MUCH MORE generous unemployment benefits than in US

5- They have MUCH higher taxes on someone making more than 250K than in US. And they certainly do not have the Romney class paying a lower Taxes than the Middle class!

6- They have MUCH more unionized workforce than US.

etc. Social services and Government regulation of Big business.

ALL of which steps you Republicans oppose, proving what TRUE ENEMY of American people you are. And some of which steps Obama Admin talked about but passed NONE proving what HOAX it is.


About 47% that pay no Federal Income Taxes

If Obama was not a HOAX and the so called not a FARCE, they would have asked Romney:

Mr. Romney do you know why 47% of Americans do not pay Federal Income Taxes?
it is because their income is too low because your Wall Street buddies, aka right-wing lying Media, have labeled the Union Workers in US for too long as being "Union Thugs" when they asked for having their salaries increased by a relative modest $2000 per year to $50K per Year, or because your Wall Street buddies have moved 100s of Millions of Jobs to China which is a Communist Capitalist country!! So most of them if they are not the elderly or paraplegics Vets from Iraq, Afghan, etc. Wars pay no Federal Income Taxes because they are below poverty line despite many having 2 back breaking Jobs. So you want 90% of Americans to pay Federal Income Taxes rather than 53%, then answer is easy:

1- Cap the Salaries of the Wall Street connected Class, aka CEOs and other top Brass of Big corporations, to NO MORE than 20 times of the average employees salary. In contrast to the 400 times that it is now.

2- Take these Trillions of Dollars in SAVINGS and then increase the average Salary of American worker to Double where they are now, so that average salaries in US that are now about $35,000 would then become $70,000 per Year and MORE.

And Voila we will then have 90% of Americans and more qualifying to pay Federal Income Taxes and pay for it by capping the Salary of Romney and other Wall Street Big Wigs to no more than $1.4 Mill per Year which still needless to say is a very good annual salary since it will be 20 times of what average American will be making.

Now you cannot possibly tell US Mr. Romney that for you and your buddies were to be limited to $1.4 Mill per Year salary while avg American would make $75K, that that is "Socialism"!

Also lets state this FACT: you and your Wall Street buddies have sent 10s of Millions of Jobs from US to China, which China actually is a Communist Capitalist country, which means it actually is one of the true "Socialist" countries. In which China the Communist party caps the salary of the top Managers to be like 5 times of the avg worker, not the 20 times we suggested here, but 5 times. And you and Wall Street owned Media have been telling us over last may Years about how China is a fast growing economy and success, which is TRUE as per them having 4.2% Unemployment to 9% growth rate, etc., but you ignore the FACT that China is actually a TRUE "Socialist" country where the salary of top execs are capped plus many other Government controls & regulation of top brass of Big Corps for the benefit of the Chinese People. To be exact: The Chinese Communist Party exercises power through two institutions: the State-Owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission (SASAC) and the Communist Party's Organisation Department. SASAC, which holds shares in the biggest companies, is the world's largest controlling shareholder and the state-capitalist institution par excellence. It has also been implementing the Communist party's policy of creating a ‚Äúharmonious society‚Ä? by regulating pay. For example, In 2009 the average Chinese SOE boss earned $88,000 and the highest-paid, the chairman of China Mobile earned $182,000.

Now if you are going to be for avg Worker in US making 1/400th of you Mr. Romney and what your Wall Street class makes, and against having the salary of Wall Street brass capped at 20 times of avg American workers, so that then avg worker is paid a relatively measly $38K per year as a result of which they do not qualify to pay Federal Income Taxes, then at least please Shut the FAWK Up about this avg American worker not paying Federal Income Taxes which is due to you and your Wall Street buddies paying them too little and having shipped 10s of Millions of Jobs to China which is a Communist Capitalist country with tight cap on what the Managers make relative to the Workers.

But of course Obama did not ask any of the above questions, did not make any of the above points, which would expose Romney and his gang for being either utter complete Lunatics or WORSE the TRUE ENEMY within, because Obama Admin has pretty much done all of the above, if not ALL of the above, because it is owned and controlled by the same right-wing Media/Cabal (aka Wall Street gang) behind Romney.


Not Debates, but a Charade

So if these debates were NOT a Charade, then the so called Moderator would ask:

Mr. Romney & Mr. Obama, you both claim to be worried about Deficits, specially you Mr. Romney over last 4 years all of a sudden you GOPers have gone from blowing $3-Trillion over unnecessary Iraq & Afghan Wars to being sooooooooooooo worried about Deficits. If you are so worried about Deficits, THEN why dont you:

1- Support Government run Universal Socialized Health care (NHS), which would give Health Care to all Americans while CUT, repeat CUT, health care spending by 50%, which means CUT Deficits by about $1-Trillion per Year. And these incredible FACTS are why ALL Conservative parties in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. are 100% for their NHS. Instead you Mr. Obama did not even propose NHS and you Mr. Romney totally oppose it!

2- Call for no more FREE Military protection for Germany, Japan, South Korea, etc. at cost of 100s of Billions per year to American Tax payers, as China that you keep referring as being our Debt holder has ZERO Military troops outside China.

3- Call for Increasing the Taxes on the Romney Class, Super Rich, to the same level as Middle Class? Set aside to a logically much higher level as in every developed Nations where the more Income you make the higher percentage Taxes you pay.

4- Call for ending the Afghan War that is costing us about $200-Billion per year and which War & Occupation has been going on now for an insane 10-Years+, longer than WWI & WWII combined. And instead invest that $200-Billion per year in American people & cities set aside to reduce the Deficit.

5- Call for No more Wars in Middle East which Wars have absolutely no benefit for American people but cost US Trillions of Dollars, which Wars are always supported and fanned by the Israeli lobby, and which Wars you finance by borrowing from China!

6- Call for cutting the US Military budget to be at most to what it was at the height of the Reagan era, set aside cutting it to HALF of what it was during Reagan era? After all the Soviet Union threat has gone away, on its OWN, which was the reason for our Gargantuan Military budget of $400-Billion during Reagan era. For you surely cannot tell us that "Reagan was a Pacifist", "Reagan was an Appeaser", or "We were under Armed during Reagan era"! So why in GODs name has the US Military budget rather being cut down from $400-Bill which it was at the height of Reagan era, has grown since then to the current TRULY insane level of $700-Billion. WHY? You cannot possibly tell us that the reason is Alqaeda when Alqaeda has ZERO Planes, ZERO Tanks, ZERO Submarines, ZERO Ships, ZERO Helicopters, etc. ZERO real Weapons.

So if these were Debates and NOT a Charade
then the so called Moderator would ask Mr. Romney, you that keep saying we need to:
"Cut Government Spending"
"Government is problem not the solution"
"Government does not create Jobs"
etc.

you freaking buffoon you do realize that US Military is a 100% Tax payer funded & Government run Organization.

you do realize that:

"Everyone in the US Military has a Job and gets paid because US Government SPENDs Tax payer money to pay them."

Or are you saying that People in US Military do not have a Job and are unemployed!

So Mr Romney & Obama: you surely cannot tell us that:
"Reagan was a Pacifist",
or "We were under Armed during Reagan era"!

So why in GODs name has the US Military budget rather being cut down from $400-Bill which it was at the height of Reagan era, it has instead grown since then to the current TRULY insane level of $700-Billion. WHY? You cannot possibly tell us that the reason is Alqaeda when Alqaeda has ZERO Planes, ZERO Tanks, etc. ZERO real Weapons.

Now of course neither the Moderator NOR Obama will Ask any of the above Questions, since the Moderator just like Obama are controlled by the same right-wing Media/Cabal and Military Industrial Complex. Lets not even talk about Mitt Romney who is even more owned by this same gang. Really "How Stupid does the right-wing Media/Cabal think we the People are" to give us in the Internet age such a Charade as a debates & election!



A Good related Video, as usual from John Stewart, showing that Republicans arent just wrong, but utter complete Lunatics.









(1) Margaret Thatchers Conservative party in UK stating that they are 100% for their Universal nationalized single payer health care system (aka NHS)
http://www.conservatives.com/Policy/Where_we_stand/Health.aspx

(2) Conservative party of Stephen Harper of Canada stating that they are 100% for their Universal nationalized health care system (aka Medicare)
http://www.conservative.ca/?page_id=1412

(3) China is further ultimate proof of the Con Job that Republicans (Wall Street) have been running on US
http://www.realnewspost.com/sa.php?a=61378

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By Guest:   real_patriot 2012-11-05

There is a gr8 related article, that is about Romney and Republican Con Job that he represents, here:
"Romneyism"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/romneyism_b_2069095.html

please publish this article.

By Guest:   NoMoreLies 2012-11-03

Man this article should be read by all to realize what a charade US elections have been and are and how because of these 2 parties owned by the Wall Street Cabal & the right-wing Media, that US is falling further and further behind of the rest of the developed World. On that note chck out:
World's Most Prosperous Country 2012:
"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/31/worlds-most-prosperous-county-2012_n_2049725.html"

As you can see these countries are:
1- Mainly in Europe, you know the same Europe that our lying right-wing Media been telling us is having a "Debt crisis" bull sheeeeet
2- All these countries have Government run Universal Socialized Health care, what Obama Admin did not even propose set aside pass and what Republicans and the Wall Street owned Media, aka right-wing Media Cabal, call "Socialism" and will lead to our economic ruin when the exact opposite is the case as per this report on most Prosperous Countries or as per their beloved Israel having the same Government run Universal Socialized Health care

By Guest:   asphalt 2012-10-23

Man did you watch the so called Debate last night?
What a Charade indeed.
So Obama has done nearly ALL that Bush did, from countuing Iraq War the same, to countuing Afghan War the same even increasing US troops there, to engaging in every War mongering of Bush Admin from Iran to etc., to having increased the Military budget that is already Gargantuan beyond any sensible measure

All under the non-stop Con Job that "we need to fight Terrorists" in X country

And Romney's position is that NO you have not waged enough Wars, No you have not increased the size of US Military enough even though it is Gargantuan beyond any sensible measure already!

So Vote Obama or Romney for:
4 More Wars
4 More Wars
4 More Wars

face it: the Military Industrial complex rules US.
How Sad but True :(

By Member: ThinkDeep 2012-10-16

Another great article from Realnewspost.
I am starting to think that this is the ONLY place where one can reliably get the truth.
Related to this article, you believe this:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49433579
"Merkel Urges Tax Cuts to Boost German Economy"

Which is totally misleading, because:
German Romney Class pay a Tax rates of close to 60% in Germany, which is FAR HIGHER than what the German middle class pays.

Contrast this to US where the Romney class is paying an astonishing Tax rate of 14%, which is FAR LOWER than what the American middle class.

So if in Germany they have a slight Tax decrease on their Super Rich, they will still be paying FAR FAR MORE than what the same Super Rich would pay in US even after their Taxes were raised to Clinton era Taxes of 39%.

So you see this is another EXAMPLE of the Con Job that US Media plays on US all the time, that is they run a headline which is totally misleading when taken into context.

By Guest:   StevenAk 2012-10-14

Like it or not the USA is capitalist nation. Government is now essentially merged with business given the use of lobbyists, pacs, and the disaster of citizens united. The media is completely corporate and worthless.

So you can complain or keep fighting on selected issues. A "liberal" from the US would be laughed out of any other country (Canada, UK, Japan, Israel) as too extreme. A conservative from the US would be deported or placed in psychiatric care.


By Member: ThinkDeep 2012-10-14

Yes, very TRUE and very SAD, what you have written.
Which requires US the People to take real action against this right-wing Media/Cabal that has taken over our Government, our Democracy, by giving US hoax Democrats and these utter complete lunatic Republicans to choose from. By having labeled essential necessary services such as Government run Socialized Health care, which would give health care to all Americans while cut health care spending by 50%, to be "Socialism" while they love this same Government run Socialized Health care in Israel.

By Guest:   Independent 2012-10-11

Show me the fiscally responsible choice and they will have my vote.

I had a lot of hope for what Obama could bring, but I agree with your HOAX tag on the Democrats. The controlled all branches of government and made things worse. Crap, the Dems controlled both the House and the Senate for the last two years of the Bush years and all the Dems do is blame Bush... Take a look at the Dems budget and the US continues to increase debt by half a trillion for every year bugetted. No fiscal responsibility here.

Romney is no better. He hasn't a plan to solve the fiscal crisis that the US is in.
Neither candidate is going to make any waves as the beauty contest approaches.

We only have ourselves to blame if we put either of these candidates into office.

This is for certain: Whoever is in office will get richer, the rich will get richer, and the rest of us will get poorer.

We must elect people in who will actually work on fixing the problems.

By Member: ThinkDeep 2012-10-12

Most of what you have said is true, some is totally brain dead. Such as the:

"US continues to increase debt by half a trillion for every year"

Debt (aka Bonds) is not necessarily bad, Bonds are GREAT, IF it is put into good use rather than wasted.

That is for example if we issue $1-Trillion Dollars in Bonds (aka Debt) and with that we employ 10-Million people whom then create a Renewable Energy system that over next 100 years saves us $100-Trillion in Oil, Coal, etc. charges, and also creates a much cleaner environment, then that is (or was) a great Debt.

Or if you issue $1-Trillion in Bonds (aka Debt) with which then you find the cure to cancer, and thus save $100-Trillion over next X years, then again that Bond was a great Debt.

OTOH, if you borrow $1-Trillion and waste it in unnecessary Wars 10,000 Kilometers from your land, as US has done in Iraq & Afghan wars, then that is a very bad Debt. If you borrow $100s of Billions of Dollars to fund a gargantuan Military, such as have 200,000 US troops in Europe that is a very bad Debt.

By Guest:   akkhol 2012-10-09

"all Israeli's have access to same health care from cradle to grave FREE for Taxes they pay."

Free for taxes they pay??? That makes no sense mor0n. My lunch was free too for the price I paid for it.

By Member: ThinkDeep 2012-10-09

akkhol, you are another gr8 example of what utter complete lunatics you Republicans are.

Did you actually write:
"Free for taxes they pay??? That makes no sense mor0n. My lunch was free too for the price I paid for it."

To your brain dead mind it makes NO sense that Europeans, Canadians, Israelis, etc. get health care for FREE for the Taxes that they pay!

What part of that does not make sense to you you freaking psycho!

So Europeans, Canadians, Israelis, etc. pay Taxes and for the Taxes that they pay they get TOTAL health care for FREE for life. We Americans pay the same Taxes as them but we get NO Health care for our Taxes but we have to pay an INSANE $15,000 and MORE per year (for family of 4) for health care.

If a Europeans, Canadians, Israelis, etc. loses their Job then they get health care for FREE for the Taxes they have paid and will pay in future.

And that is part of why NHS is only way to operate health care of a country, the other is that it costs 50% LESS and that is WHY LL Conservative parties, in Europe, Canada, Israel, etc. are 100% for their NHS.

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